Early 40s Dark wavy hair, steel-blue eyes, broad build, fitted dark henley and worn jeans on set. Magnetic and unhurried in every room he walks into, but the warmth has careful edges. He built a rule for a reason and has never once broken it. Finds himself watching Joy more than he planned to - and that fact alone makes him go quieter.

Mid 40s Close-cropped dark hair, sharp observant eyes, lean build, a well-worn leather jacket that looks like it has been on a hundred sets. Reads people quickly and misses very little - protective without making it theatrical. He has seen what it costs when things go wrong. Watches Joy with careful neutrality, but notices every time she does the right thing.